You've said your piece. I've said mine. You're more likely right than I: never married, never facing domestic violence first hand. I concede...not to say I totally understand and agree with you.
You've made your case. No sugarcoating, no niceties. I appreciate the candor, and thank you for the lesson. I shall try, from this point, to be less tone-deaf. Whatever else I may think will be reserved for pen and paper, which is patient, and allows me to be wrong—along with the silence and grace to let me see what to amend, how to learn from error, and how to speak for myself.
Is the matter closed? You tell me. I'm not a natural debater; better at losing arguments, more than once. There. That's all I have to say. Feel free to take a parting shot and a victory lap. I'm done.
Everything you say is correct. Perhaps you could have stressed the indoctrination of women that makes them so vulnerable to men who take advantage of laws and customs that favour the abuser over the abused. Women refuse to report rape and other molestations not only because they fear being branded as sluts and liars but also because they wear self guilt that is quite unjustified. Men do not have this same pressure and this gives us a responsibility that most of us avoid. Keep up your good work.
I can't believe how many people are repeating this nonsense about a "rape academy" getting millions of views per month. There was no 'academy', there was a Telegram group with fewer than 1000 members, which someone *posted a single link to* on a porn site that got those millions of hits. Here is a full explanation: https://moonmetropolis.substack.com/p/no-an-online-rape-academy-did-not
And I already know the reaction: "Sir, the numbers don't matter, I care about women and the problem is that it exists at all". Well it does matter, because this is an absurd moral panic that is getting amplified by many in supposedly 'independent' media and it leads to conflict, distrust and censorship
coming from a privileged white male who has never been thru what women go thru. And doesn't care. You are part of the problem. A massive social, systemic problem. Thanks for justifying my misandry.
As someone who’s been watching this since the 70s, one of my conclusions is there is not sufficient ostracization and punishment. Men who assault their wives are put out on bail or charged with a misdemeanor. that must change. A national plan to protect victims of intimate partner Violence is easy to imagine —safe houses, incarceration of perpetrators, a network for women to share information about men and so on.
how are you reaching that conclusion? Men are a danger to women. Period. Full stop. Regardless of the color of the woman and most especially to transwomen. Talking out your a$$ run in the family? You miss the entire point of this post, whic is the FACT that women are victimized by men in every culture, every country, every corner of the earth, throughout history. FACT. Full stop. There is no arguing that point. And there is no justification. Because it is men causing the harm, it is up to men to stand up for the women around them, to change what is ACCEPTED as normal or culturally acceptable. Period.
Thank You! Every time I’ve seen this posted I need to read it again! Please keep on posting it. Even if it gets one person to change their thinking, it’s a lot!
How is this a surprise to men? Do they read the daily news and just skip over all the notices of even years ago cases where DNA has found a rapist/murderer of women? It's just not surprising to any woman beyond the childhood years. And young girls are not safe either, just unaware.
Can we trust men to fix the problem? I have an issue with letting people who created the problem be involved in finding a solution. Like the subprime mortgage crisis, or every market crash, or every crisis or war in the history of the world…if we are happy with the system, then I see how we can argue that men can help change behavior, but I don’t think behavior is the issue here. The issue is the system, and men should not be in charge of what comes next. Although, I can see how some people will argue that when either yin or yang energy is in domination it could be equally bad, I would still prefer leaving the yang out of the mix while we fix things.
Yes you do! Dismantle the patriarchy. We also need men in Congress and the media to take a stand when the president treats and speaks to a woman in a degrading and demeaning manner. By remaining silent, they inadvertently promote this form of abuse. It is all about the oppression and control of women!
A hoax is a hoax - those who defend and spread gender hoaxes are suspects of darker agendas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1f2jH7MQvQ
https://rebeccarbibbs.substack.com/p/its-long-past-time-for-us-society?r=5dsiiv&utm_medium=ios
Thank you. I appreciate your efforts. But I'm not optimistic.
You've said your piece. I've said mine. You're more likely right than I: never married, never facing domestic violence first hand. I concede...not to say I totally understand and agree with you.
You've made your case. No sugarcoating, no niceties. I appreciate the candor, and thank you for the lesson. I shall try, from this point, to be less tone-deaf. Whatever else I may think will be reserved for pen and paper, which is patient, and allows me to be wrong—along with the silence and grace to let me see what to amend, how to learn from error, and how to speak for myself.
Is the matter closed? You tell me. I'm not a natural debater; better at losing arguments, more than once. There. That's all I have to say. Feel free to take a parting shot and a victory lap. I'm done.
Everything you say is correct. Perhaps you could have stressed the indoctrination of women that makes them so vulnerable to men who take advantage of laws and customs that favour the abuser over the abused. Women refuse to report rape and other molestations not only because they fear being branded as sluts and liars but also because they wear self guilt that is quite unjustified. Men do not have this same pressure and this gives us a responsibility that most of us avoid. Keep up your good work.
Thank you.
Thank you💗❤️🩹
I can't believe how many people are repeating this nonsense about a "rape academy" getting millions of views per month. There was no 'academy', there was a Telegram group with fewer than 1000 members, which someone *posted a single link to* on a porn site that got those millions of hits. Here is a full explanation: https://moonmetropolis.substack.com/p/no-an-online-rape-academy-did-not
And I already know the reaction: "Sir, the numbers don't matter, I care about women and the problem is that it exists at all". Well it does matter, because this is an absurd moral panic that is getting amplified by many in supposedly 'independent' media and it leads to conflict, distrust and censorship
coming from a privileged white male who has never been thru what women go thru. And doesn't care. You are part of the problem. A massive social, systemic problem. Thanks for justifying my misandry.
How am I part of the problem?
Edit: First line should be "If rape culture really empowers men, then does that make every man whose path you cross a potential threat?
yes. every man is a potential threat. every. single. male.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-195506355
As someone who’s been watching this since the 70s, one of my conclusions is there is not sufficient ostracization and punishment. Men who assault their wives are put out on bail or charged with a misdemeanor. that must change. A national plan to protect victims of intimate partner Violence is easy to imagine —safe houses, incarceration of perpetrators, a network for women to share information about men and so on.
As someone who’s been watching this since the 70s – corrected version—
https://moonmetropolis.substack.com/p/no-an-online-rape-academy-did-not
you are the problem. https://substack.com/home/post/p-195506355
Your internalized misogyny has a stack of victims.
spoken like a true white male from a position of privilege who doesn't truly care for the experiences of the women around him.
Spoken like a white women who hates women of color and transwomen.
how are you reaching that conclusion? Men are a danger to women. Period. Full stop. Regardless of the color of the woman and most especially to transwomen. Talking out your a$$ run in the family? You miss the entire point of this post, whic is the FACT that women are victimized by men in every culture, every country, every corner of the earth, throughout history. FACT. Full stop. There is no arguing that point. And there is no justification. Because it is men causing the harm, it is up to men to stand up for the women around them, to change what is ACCEPTED as normal or culturally acceptable. Period.
Women are not only the majority of the society, they are the sole source of the future of that society.
Thank You! Every time I’ve seen this posted I need to read it again! Please keep on posting it. Even if it gets one person to change their thinking, it’s a lot!
How is this a surprise to men? Do they read the daily news and just skip over all the notices of even years ago cases where DNA has found a rapist/murderer of women? It's just not surprising to any woman beyond the childhood years. And young girls are not safe either, just unaware.
Can we trust men to fix the problem? I have an issue with letting people who created the problem be involved in finding a solution. Like the subprime mortgage crisis, or every market crash, or every crisis or war in the history of the world…if we are happy with the system, then I see how we can argue that men can help change behavior, but I don’t think behavior is the issue here. The issue is the system, and men should not be in charge of what comes next. Although, I can see how some people will argue that when either yin or yang energy is in domination it could be equally bad, I would still prefer leaving the yang out of the mix while we fix things.
Yes you do! Dismantle the patriarchy. We also need men in Congress and the media to take a stand when the president treats and speaks to a woman in a degrading and demeaning manner. By remaining silent, they inadvertently promote this form of abuse. It is all about the oppression and control of women!