Agree with you completely, Qasim. I signed to stand with the ACLU -- I probably have signed before, so will only be counted once, but I am heightened by the number of signatures. I am frightened that THIS SC may cave to trump, and that would take down our democracy.
At the rally Saturday in Austin, I was interviewed by a reporter from MS NOW, and when asked WHY I was there, my primary reason was birthright citizenship -- it makes the U.S. stand out among nations, as one who is truly for all immigrants who made this country what it became. I've always been proud that MY country, was the ONE, made of all peoples (we don't have to talk here, of our sins, mistakes, slavery, genocide of the Natives -- thinking people know this to be true, ... but good people have striven through the decades to rectify, and to progress to make our nation live up to its values). I'm with tremors, awaiting the decision. And thanks, for the topic, Qasim. April 1 -- I'll be watching the decision.
I’m confused. If being born here doesn’t confer citizenship, what does? Can you only be a citizen if your parents are citizens? Would that mean everyone who comes here must go through the naturalization process, including children born before their parents naturalization process was complete? Wouldn’t that remove citizenship from millions of Americans unless there is a grandfather clause in the law?
More importantly, wouldn’t that mean that Don, Jr., Ivanka, & maybe Eric would lose their citizenship status? I don’t think Ivana Trump was a citizen when her 1st & 2nd kids were born, & I’m not sure Baran would make the cut either. Someone should seriously check how & when Melania became a citizen.
I am sorry, but I am at the stage now where trump needs to do what hitler, or jim jones did, to end the world's suffering. If trump is not going to be tried, and convicted, for treason, crimes against humanity, pedophilia, and murder, and spend the rest of his life in prison, then I will accept the other solution. Push him in a corner. He is disgusting, despicable and deplorable. Most people are good, and occasionally they do something they know is bad. Some people are bad, and they struggle every day to keep it under control. Others are corrupt to the core and just don't give a damn. But EVIL is a completely different creature. EVIL believes bad is not only permissible but that its actions are justified. The EVIL person's actions are reprehensible and divorced from conscience, no matter what toll it takes, or who it takes it upon.
Thank you Qasim. So if they remove birthright Citizenship would that mean , Don Jr, Ivanka, Eric,Baron Trump ,would have to leave? Because they all have Mother’s not born in America.
They keep moving the goalposts, showing who they really are. They also contested actual birth certificates on US ccitizens before. And they have arrested many native Americans. It's like TacoDon himself made the assessment "They don't look like Indians to me" like he said in a congressional hearing in 1993. And they move the goalpost on genders. Before it was all about genitals, after the summer olympics in 2024 it became about chromosomes because Algerian boxer Imane Khelif alledgedly had the wrong ones. They didn't care about the genitals then. For all the talk about democrats not being able to define what a woman is. I'm absolutely certain they would forget about chromosomes if asked. They even included anti-trans legislation in the socalled "save-act" .
I wonder if Trump is already setting up a Department of Citizenship which will determine upon birth who is a citizen and who must be deported before their first birthday.
When dealing with fascists, nothing is improbable.
This administration is doing e v e r y thing it can, as you say, "...reshape the boundaries of belonging in the United States by disregarding the constitutional safeguards that prevent such abuses of power."
Uprooting our settled laws, they want to harm all those who are NOT white, male, adult, wealthy, predator, corrupt and criminal. They raise hell to make us suffer in it. They are depraved; unconsciously suicidal, illogical.
We are rising to end this insanity, restore hope, heal all these things. We are together to end this.
All of us immigrants including the Orange tyrant. Our parents worked and fought for the Constitutional rights we have enjoyed and appreciated. No tyrant can declare that there is no birthright.
There's a book called "Democracy Doesn't Exist, But We'll Miss It When It's Gone". It's quite good, fascinating history of various imperfect democracies, from Athens to 17th century pirate ships. But the central idea is that imperfect as our democracy has always been, it's so much better than not having it.
And the idea of The American Dream is like that too. It always had cracks in it, but it's a disaster if we lose it completely.
Done. Am a longtime volunteer with the ACLU. (The national conference in 2018 was my idea of a gala with the Justice All—stars ✨ Cullors, Lewis, Richards, Stevenson to name a few✨)🌈🔥
Your father had $20 and one piano less than Eddie Van Halen's. When interviewed by the Smithsonian in 2020 as to his views on "the American Dream", Van Halen cited that fact and added, "Look at us now. If that's not the American Dream, then what is?"
Mijneer Van Halen was one of the most talented guitarists of all time. He was a rock star legend. And he didn't have the first clue about what the American dream is. For it is by reading the American constitution that you know what is the American dream. The American dream is not that you can make it in the US by playing guitar. It is that anyone can make it in the US and make the US his home based on fundamental, immutable principles.
It is the first line spoken in the film "The Godfather": "I believe in America". Can you guess what the response is from Vito Corleone?
A timely piece that forebodingly notes this is all about modern day interpretation and that the Supreme Court is prepared and itching to overturn birthright citizenship once they line up lower court rulings in favor of that being done. It's Trump's America the way that he and his fascist see it.
Trump only likes the birthright citizenship when he can make money off it! https://theweek.com/speedreads/748344/russian-birth-tourists-are-flocking-miami-trump-condos-give-birth-american-citizens
Agree with you completely, Qasim. I signed to stand with the ACLU -- I probably have signed before, so will only be counted once, but I am heightened by the number of signatures. I am frightened that THIS SC may cave to trump, and that would take down our democracy.
At the rally Saturday in Austin, I was interviewed by a reporter from MS NOW, and when asked WHY I was there, my primary reason was birthright citizenship -- it makes the U.S. stand out among nations, as one who is truly for all immigrants who made this country what it became. I've always been proud that MY country, was the ONE, made of all peoples (we don't have to talk here, of our sins, mistakes, slavery, genocide of the Natives -- thinking people know this to be true, ... but good people have striven through the decades to rectify, and to progress to make our nation live up to its values). I'm with tremors, awaiting the decision. And thanks, for the topic, Qasim. April 1 -- I'll be watching the decision.
I’m confused. If being born here doesn’t confer citizenship, what does? Can you only be a citizen if your parents are citizens? Would that mean everyone who comes here must go through the naturalization process, including children born before their parents naturalization process was complete? Wouldn’t that remove citizenship from millions of Americans unless there is a grandfather clause in the law?
More importantly, wouldn’t that mean that Don, Jr., Ivanka, & maybe Eric would lose their citizenship status? I don’t think Ivana Trump was a citizen when her 1st & 2nd kids were born, & I’m not sure Baran would make the cut either. Someone should seriously check how & when Melania became a citizen.
I am sorry, but I am at the stage now where trump needs to do what hitler, or jim jones did, to end the world's suffering. If trump is not going to be tried, and convicted, for treason, crimes against humanity, pedophilia, and murder, and spend the rest of his life in prison, then I will accept the other solution. Push him in a corner. He is disgusting, despicable and deplorable. Most people are good, and occasionally they do something they know is bad. Some people are bad, and they struggle every day to keep it under control. Others are corrupt to the core and just don't give a damn. But EVIL is a completely different creature. EVIL believes bad is not only permissible but that its actions are justified. The EVIL person's actions are reprehensible and divorced from conscience, no matter what toll it takes, or who it takes it upon.
This fetish of citizenship is a figment of overactive imagination and power mongering.
"Citizenship" as an organizing principle is still in its infancy. The underlying reality of humanity, even to this day, is family and tribe.
And Tribe is still in fashion, probably will never go out of fashion because it is "human scaled".
The Nation State, vs the Tribe is where "citizenship" gets squashed. It is where politics erupts volcanically.
Thank you Qasim. So if they remove birthright Citizenship would that mean , Don Jr, Ivanka, Eric,Baron Trump ,would have to leave? Because they all have Mother’s not born in America.
And at least one mother was here illegally - working as a model on a tourist visa.
Let them all go to Saudi or Dubai or someplace.
People have every right to live in the US, local or not.
They can't just kick everyone out like this.
They keep moving the goalposts, showing who they really are. They also contested actual birth certificates on US ccitizens before. And they have arrested many native Americans. It's like TacoDon himself made the assessment "They don't look like Indians to me" like he said in a congressional hearing in 1993. And they move the goalpost on genders. Before it was all about genitals, after the summer olympics in 2024 it became about chromosomes because Algerian boxer Imane Khelif alledgedly had the wrong ones. They didn't care about the genitals then. For all the talk about democrats not being able to define what a woman is. I'm absolutely certain they would forget about chromosomes if asked. They even included anti-trans legislation in the socalled "save-act" .
I wonder if Trump is already setting up a Department of Citizenship which will determine upon birth who is a citizen and who must be deported before their first birthday.
When dealing with fascists, nothing is improbable.
This administration is doing e v e r y thing it can, as you say, "...reshape the boundaries of belonging in the United States by disregarding the constitutional safeguards that prevent such abuses of power."
Uprooting our settled laws, they want to harm all those who are NOT white, male, adult, wealthy, predator, corrupt and criminal. They raise hell to make us suffer in it. They are depraved; unconsciously suicidal, illogical.
We are rising to end this insanity, restore hope, heal all these things. We are together to end this.
Thank you for all Qasim. With you 🙏❣️
All of us immigrants including the Orange tyrant. Our parents worked and fought for the Constitutional rights we have enjoyed and appreciated. No tyrant can declare that there is no birthright.
None of us can be complacent on this issue. If birthright citizenship is overturned, NONE of us need be accepted as citizens if Trump disagrees!
There's a book called "Democracy Doesn't Exist, But We'll Miss It When It's Gone". It's quite good, fascinating history of various imperfect democracies, from Athens to 17th century pirate ships. But the central idea is that imperfect as our democracy has always been, it's so much better than not having it.
And the idea of The American Dream is like that too. It always had cracks in it, but it's a disaster if we lose it completely.
Done. Am a longtime volunteer with the ACLU. (The national conference in 2018 was my idea of a gala with the Justice All—stars ✨ Cullors, Lewis, Richards, Stevenson to name a few✨)🌈🔥
Your father had $20 and one piano less than Eddie Van Halen's. When interviewed by the Smithsonian in 2020 as to his views on "the American Dream", Van Halen cited that fact and added, "Look at us now. If that's not the American Dream, then what is?"
Mijneer Van Halen was one of the most talented guitarists of all time. He was a rock star legend. And he didn't have the first clue about what the American dream is. For it is by reading the American constitution that you know what is the American dream. The American dream is not that you can make it in the US by playing guitar. It is that anyone can make it in the US and make the US his home based on fundamental, immutable principles.
It is the first line spoken in the film "The Godfather": "I believe in America". Can you guess what the response is from Vito Corleone?
"Why did you call the police?"
https://endlesschain.substack.com/p/american-dreams
https://endlesschain.substack.com/p/the-godfather-quiz-the-answers
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CnhUQ7A9q/
A timely piece that forebodingly notes this is all about modern day interpretation and that the Supreme Court is prepared and itching to overturn birthright citizenship once they line up lower court rulings in favor of that being done. It's Trump's America the way that he and his fascist see it.