Wow, how many pages in your book? Are all filled with similar descriptions of White Women? You seemed to have said everything negative about White women in this excerpt.
What would be my reason for reading your book?
As Black as I am and a child of the ’hood’ I’ve known and still know White women who’ve help me and others when they didn’t have to. From first grade through Junior High all my teachers were white. I didn’t have a Black teacher till High School and she taught my dreaded algebra.
Yes, there are some White women to stay clear of. But I’ve known some Black ‘Sapphire’s’ who use their Blackness to bully and cheat other Black women out of positions and promotions.
I know this, as an AKA who contributed a measly $5K to my soros’s campaign, White women raised $11 million for Kamala. White men raised approximately $6 million and White evangelicals raised approximately $4 million. Feel free to correct me on those totals. Kamala didn’t raise $1 billion from Black people alone. Prior to VP she ran and won three elected positions: District Attorney, Attorney General and Senator. While Black people gave their all, she didn’t win her campaign on our dollars. White people and I’m guessing White women were major contributors to her campaigns. I agree that being White comes with inherent privilege but I disagree that all use that privilege so selfishly and only for their race and/or against us.
I’m an avid reader. Does your book have some positive words or examples about White Women?
There's a lot here to think about, in Dr. Cadet's words and people's responses. My belief is that a second Trump presidency would devastate our country, causing great pain and hardship and death to so many. I also believe that a movement has begun to grow that stands in opposition to the Capitalism that is destroying us and the planet. I believe that if we hope to have a better future, this movement needs to grow, consolidate, and deepen its understanding of the class nature of society. If Trump is re-elected, this movement will be crushed, terrorized, will be decimated, and have to go underground. If Harris is elected, the movement will have breathing room to continue to grow and develop. This is a necessary step toward a future without war and want. for THIS reason, I urge people to vote for Harris. She, like most of our past presidents put the US global hegemony as the top priority, and we know where that has led us. However, without a movement that can unite the disparate struggles across our country, we have no hope. As a side note, if you live in a thoroughly red state like I do, in which the Electoral College will be negating your vote, I urge you to vote for Jill Stein, who represents a break from the 2 parties that are strangling us. I hope my logic is understandable. So much is at stake.
Qasim, I like a lot of your work. But with all due respect, this particular piece was really disappointing. To provide cover for Harris in this fashion (playing the colour card + the usual Mehdi Hasan "Trump this, Trump that" talking points) is frankly beneath you.
You are fully aware of what the true nature of Zionism is. You've known for a long time. You're well versed enough in the history to understand full well that Zionism is another manifestation of settler colonialism underpinned by white supremacy.
For Dr. Cadet to suggest that Harris is somehow not part of that structure because she's BIPOC is patently false. She's already conceded that were she in charge, she'd be no different from Biden.
And lastly, the notion that Trump would somehow be worse for Gaza doesn't measure up to reality. Gaza has already been destroyed. 70 percent of the strip has been reduced to rubble. There's no food, no water, no infrastructure, no hospitals, no schools, no universities, no mosques, no churches. At the very least, 250,000 Palestinians have been slaughtered and those who remain, many of them severely wounded will likely perish from disease and starvation.
As far as unconditionally supporting Israel no matter what it does is concerned, there is simply no daylight between team blue and team red. The latter just says the quiet part out loud. Either way, it's the US supplying the bombs and the money and Netanyahu et al having complete free reign to use it as he pleases to annihilate the Palestinians. This will continue unabated regardless of whether it is Harris or Trump in the WH come January. To have an entire piece about white supremacy that doesn't even acknowledge this reality is incredibly dishonest.
As a Black woman, I hold a different opinion. Both parties are parties of white supremacy. Kamala Harris has doubled down on committing a genocide that could only happen to non-white people. Her willingness to use her non-whiteness as cover for that genocide for the sake of power should send as many shudders down our spine as Trump. It makes me sad that I hear so many Black people - including Former President Obama - chiding Black and white and other people, such as myself, who in good conscience cannot and will not vote for Harris. There's a reason that the neocons are endorsing her. Endless war does not help Black Americans and if we really want to end white supremacy we need to unite with the Global Majority facing U.S. imperialism around the globe. It's time to deepen our understanding of white supremacy and its interconnectedness to imperialism and capitalism. Without a deeper analysis we will keep on falling into this trap, wondering why things continue to get worse. Trying to manipulate white women as well as people of conscience into endorsing a racist genocide by voting for Harris is not the best path to ending white supremacy. It's actually just another way of perpetuating it. My opinion is that we need to take the L and vote for the Green Party. If they get 5% of the vote, they will get federal funding and 3rd parties will present a real challenge to white democracy - not just a token Black face.
I could very well use myself as an example, but as much as I would have voted for Biden, and will vote for Harris, what I'm really doing is voting against Trump. I'm disappointed in Harris, for some of the reasons you give, and more disappointed in Biden, but Trump is (I hope) unthinkable.
I am not voting for Trump, but he did not get us into any new wars. Biden/Harris got us into 2 wars including a genocide. To me genocide is unthinkable - at least we hoped so before Biden/Harris came to power.
Trump was a faithful supporter of Netanyahu, and he took the previously avoided action of moving the US Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to the apolitical and universal city of Jerusalem. I war didn't start at that minute, but I would say it certainly made the light bright green for Netanyahu/Israel to accelerate (sorry for the automotive puns) what they were already doing to the Palestinians.
I certainly agree with you that Netanyahu's genocide of Palestinians has been unthinkable, and that Biden's "ironclad" support of it drops him way, way down on the list of creditable US presidents.
Both “options” are unacceptable. I agree. Both “sides” are owned by the Zionists. This is why I say we would be wiser to suffer a loss here and now, rather than allow their capture of our government to continue and expand. We need to provide a way out of AIPAC’s control for the Democrats.
Ms Brown, I would suggest you tell that to Biden, but he wouldn't listen.
The AIPAC problem is bigger than AIPAC and bigger than Democrats. It is the highly corrupting influence of private money in politics, and protracted and expensive campaigns. That's why we don't live in a democracy. We live in a plutocracy, and it is controlled by the monied interests, whose real interest is themselves. Unfortunately, electeds are happy to be in office, and no incumbent wants to propose a bill eliminating private money, and giving up his or her edge.
Great points. As a disabled person I can't take the L in this election and so I'm voting for Harris to keep my healthcare and honesty my life. Like you I agree so much more needs to be done to end genocide and famine around the world that cAmerica is explicit in. I do hope you pick up my book so you can feel validated, seen and heard. Keep being amazing!
Every time we put our comfort above the (literal) lives of others, we worsen the dynamic that has led to this genocide. Voting for Harris to keep your healthcare, when people are dying. Wow. Harris is dropping 2000 lb bombs on people so that the Zionists can steal their land and go "final solution." There are more than 17,000 children that are disabled as amputees because *we* voted for Biden - that's only the children, that's only the amputees. Harris thinks we don't care about Palestinian lives, because we don't. If Miss Law and Order were willing to follow the law, then she would implement the embargo the law demands and end her hateful genocide. It's shocking to me, shocking, that it is so obvious to you that it's okay to kill, maim and exterminate a people, so you can keep your health insurance. Your life simply does not depend on health insurance and it's not getting taken away anyway. I encourage you to take a step back from all the amped up rhetoric and take a look at that and really ask yourself how you came to feel that your health insurance is more important than so far 200K lives.
You took the words right out of my mouth Pamela. To write an entire book on white supremacy (which is essentially a manifestation of privilege) and to not even mention the Gaza genocide? Let alone recognise the obvious fact that Killer Kamala is actively endorsing this in so many ways?
"Much more needs to be done to end genocide around the world that America is explicit in"? How does she not see that because the US spends billions funding endless wars and racks up trillions of dollars of debt in the process that sufficient funding isn't made available for things like good infrastructure, education, healthcare? How does she not see that this genocide in Gaza and Lebanon is bought and paid for by Biden-Harris? Absolutely astounding!
And to end off in such a patronizing manner - keep being amazing! Excuse me?
This is nothing new to me, growing up in the 50’s and 60’s in Texas. The internet has opened the flood gates for white supremacists. Some, in more liberal enclaves like San Francisco, like my wife, might not have realized the extent of this as they grew up.
Anyone who feels the need to justify or create a space of understanding for either themselves or White women upon reading this needs to take a deep look within themselves and the society in which they live. Dr. Cadet's words must be deeply listened to and honored. If hearing what she has to say causes you to bristle, even just a little bit, that's a sign you need to read this again and again and find more such literature until it sinks in.
"White supremacy," or "male supremacy," or "tall people supremacy," or "good-looking people supremacy" is a thing. For whatever reasons, people are drawn to Caucasians, or men, or tall people, or good-looking people, as if they were superior, or had anything to do with the fact that they're Caucasian, or male, or tall, or good-looking. There's certainly no reason to hold against them these characteristics. But they should be very aware of their unearned advantages, and if anything, be humble about them, and always conscious about giving full respect and even deference to people who do not happen to have these unearned advantages. Clearly, that mostly doesn't happen. It's the old joke about the person who was born on third base, and thought he hit a triple.
Dr Cadet, I wrote you a response, but it disappeared. I can't bring myself to try to reconstruct it. Suffice it to say that the first part of it was my recommendation to you, if you haven't read it, to read "Black Like Me" by John Howard Griffin. It was published in 1964, which was when I read it in junior high school, and it was the effort of Griffin (a Caucasian adult) to try to experience some of what it was like to be African American in the deep south. It was sort of like a realization that Griffin had what amounted to the good fortune to be one kind of person instead of another, and he wanted to try to feel some of what it would have been like to have been the other kind of person. As I recall, he darkened his skin, found some way to change the texture of his hair, and found a way to enlarge his lips. He got whatever education he was seeking.
I & all my white girlfriends are voting for Kamala but I get your point. There are WAY too many white women afraid of losing their white privilege. Now address all those Black & Brown men voting for the worlds biggest racist!
"All those"? This narrative is way overblown and suspect. The numbers suppoedly doing so,, even if true, would barely be a glitch in the overall electorate. And the need for you to even mention that also exemplifies what Mr Rashid says about bristling, even a little bit.
A whole lot of white women did not vote for Trump too- most of us voted for Hillary. I’m pretty sure. While I agree white supremacy is all around, I cannot imagine putting whiteness above womanhood ever. Being black, this may be harder to understand but some of us don’t see color when we look in the mirror. That anlone sounds like a privilege but it’s also true. I understand society has constructs that give different people different experiences but let us not condemn groups - here white women- as though they are homogeneous either. Women are under attack from republicans and so called Christians and don’t need to be under attack by friendly fire. Haven’t read the book but look forward to it so this is a general view from the beginning question of remembering what white women did. I am a woman that sure looks white and I didn’t do that. Just sayin’.
Why do insist on doing this?! More white women voted for the orange one than Hillary. That is a fact. You don’t get to pick your own facts. Also the same in 2020 - more voted for him even after the dismantling of Roe. It is fact.
I’m going to pass this along as a record of my digital footprint because in addition to E. Cheney’s book, I plan to read this one. I am interested in the subject and YOU passed it along.
Wow, how many pages in your book? Are all filled with similar descriptions of White Women? You seemed to have said everything negative about White women in this excerpt.
What would be my reason for reading your book?
As Black as I am and a child of the ’hood’ I’ve known and still know White women who’ve help me and others when they didn’t have to. From first grade through Junior High all my teachers were white. I didn’t have a Black teacher till High School and she taught my dreaded algebra.
Yes, there are some White women to stay clear of. But I’ve known some Black ‘Sapphire’s’ who use their Blackness to bully and cheat other Black women out of positions and promotions.
I know this, as an AKA who contributed a measly $5K to my soros’s campaign, White women raised $11 million for Kamala. White men raised approximately $6 million and White evangelicals raised approximately $4 million. Feel free to correct me on those totals. Kamala didn’t raise $1 billion from Black people alone. Prior to VP she ran and won three elected positions: District Attorney, Attorney General and Senator. While Black people gave their all, she didn’t win her campaign on our dollars. White people and I’m guessing White women were major contributors to her campaigns. I agree that being White comes with inherent privilege but I disagree that all use that privilege so selfishly and only for their race and/or against us.
I’m an avid reader. Does your book have some positive words or examples about White Women?
There's a lot here to think about, in Dr. Cadet's words and people's responses. My belief is that a second Trump presidency would devastate our country, causing great pain and hardship and death to so many. I also believe that a movement has begun to grow that stands in opposition to the Capitalism that is destroying us and the planet. I believe that if we hope to have a better future, this movement needs to grow, consolidate, and deepen its understanding of the class nature of society. If Trump is re-elected, this movement will be crushed, terrorized, will be decimated, and have to go underground. If Harris is elected, the movement will have breathing room to continue to grow and develop. This is a necessary step toward a future without war and want. for THIS reason, I urge people to vote for Harris. She, like most of our past presidents put the US global hegemony as the top priority, and we know where that has led us. However, without a movement that can unite the disparate struggles across our country, we have no hope. As a side note, if you live in a thoroughly red state like I do, in which the Electoral College will be negating your vote, I urge you to vote for Jill Stein, who represents a break from the 2 parties that are strangling us. I hope my logic is understandable. So much is at stake.
Qasim, I like a lot of your work. But with all due respect, this particular piece was really disappointing. To provide cover for Harris in this fashion (playing the colour card + the usual Mehdi Hasan "Trump this, Trump that" talking points) is frankly beneath you.
You are fully aware of what the true nature of Zionism is. You've known for a long time. You're well versed enough in the history to understand full well that Zionism is another manifestation of settler colonialism underpinned by white supremacy.
For Dr. Cadet to suggest that Harris is somehow not part of that structure because she's BIPOC is patently false. She's already conceded that were she in charge, she'd be no different from Biden.
And lastly, the notion that Trump would somehow be worse for Gaza doesn't measure up to reality. Gaza has already been destroyed. 70 percent of the strip has been reduced to rubble. There's no food, no water, no infrastructure, no hospitals, no schools, no universities, no mosques, no churches. At the very least, 250,000 Palestinians have been slaughtered and those who remain, many of them severely wounded will likely perish from disease and starvation.
As far as unconditionally supporting Israel no matter what it does is concerned, there is simply no daylight between team blue and team red. The latter just says the quiet part out loud. Either way, it's the US supplying the bombs and the money and Netanyahu et al having complete free reign to use it as he pleases to annihilate the Palestinians. This will continue unabated regardless of whether it is Harris or Trump in the WH come January. To have an entire piece about white supremacy that doesn't even acknowledge this reality is incredibly dishonest.
Thanks for sharing my words!
As a Black woman, I hold a different opinion. Both parties are parties of white supremacy. Kamala Harris has doubled down on committing a genocide that could only happen to non-white people. Her willingness to use her non-whiteness as cover for that genocide for the sake of power should send as many shudders down our spine as Trump. It makes me sad that I hear so many Black people - including Former President Obama - chiding Black and white and other people, such as myself, who in good conscience cannot and will not vote for Harris. There's a reason that the neocons are endorsing her. Endless war does not help Black Americans and if we really want to end white supremacy we need to unite with the Global Majority facing U.S. imperialism around the globe. It's time to deepen our understanding of white supremacy and its interconnectedness to imperialism and capitalism. Without a deeper analysis we will keep on falling into this trap, wondering why things continue to get worse. Trying to manipulate white women as well as people of conscience into endorsing a racist genocide by voting for Harris is not the best path to ending white supremacy. It's actually just another way of perpetuating it. My opinion is that we need to take the L and vote for the Green Party. If they get 5% of the vote, they will get federal funding and 3rd parties will present a real challenge to white democracy - not just a token Black face.
I could very well use myself as an example, but as much as I would have voted for Biden, and will vote for Harris, what I'm really doing is voting against Trump. I'm disappointed in Harris, for some of the reasons you give, and more disappointed in Biden, but Trump is (I hope) unthinkable.
I am not voting for Trump, but he did not get us into any new wars. Biden/Harris got us into 2 wars including a genocide. To me genocide is unthinkable - at least we hoped so before Biden/Harris came to power.
Trump was a faithful supporter of Netanyahu, and he took the previously avoided action of moving the US Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to the apolitical and universal city of Jerusalem. I war didn't start at that minute, but I would say it certainly made the light bright green for Netanyahu/Israel to accelerate (sorry for the automotive puns) what they were already doing to the Palestinians.
I certainly agree with you that Netanyahu's genocide of Palestinians has been unthinkable, and that Biden's "ironclad" support of it drops him way, way down on the list of creditable US presidents.
Both “options” are unacceptable. I agree. Both “sides” are owned by the Zionists. This is why I say we would be wiser to suffer a loss here and now, rather than allow their capture of our government to continue and expand. We need to provide a way out of AIPAC’s control for the Democrats.
Ms Brown, I would suggest you tell that to Biden, but he wouldn't listen.
The AIPAC problem is bigger than AIPAC and bigger than Democrats. It is the highly corrupting influence of private money in politics, and protracted and expensive campaigns. That's why we don't live in a democracy. We live in a plutocracy, and it is controlled by the monied interests, whose real interest is themselves. Unfortunately, electeds are happy to be in office, and no incumbent wants to propose a bill eliminating private money, and giving up his or her edge.
Great points. As a disabled person I can't take the L in this election and so I'm voting for Harris to keep my healthcare and honesty my life. Like you I agree so much more needs to be done to end genocide and famine around the world that cAmerica is explicit in. I do hope you pick up my book so you can feel validated, seen and heard. Keep being amazing!
Every time we put our comfort above the (literal) lives of others, we worsen the dynamic that has led to this genocide. Voting for Harris to keep your healthcare, when people are dying. Wow. Harris is dropping 2000 lb bombs on people so that the Zionists can steal their land and go "final solution." There are more than 17,000 children that are disabled as amputees because *we* voted for Biden - that's only the children, that's only the amputees. Harris thinks we don't care about Palestinian lives, because we don't. If Miss Law and Order were willing to follow the law, then she would implement the embargo the law demands and end her hateful genocide. It's shocking to me, shocking, that it is so obvious to you that it's okay to kill, maim and exterminate a people, so you can keep your health insurance. Your life simply does not depend on health insurance and it's not getting taken away anyway. I encourage you to take a step back from all the amped up rhetoric and take a look at that and really ask yourself how you came to feel that your health insurance is more important than so far 200K lives.
You took the words right out of my mouth Pamela. To write an entire book on white supremacy (which is essentially a manifestation of privilege) and to not even mention the Gaza genocide? Let alone recognise the obvious fact that Killer Kamala is actively endorsing this in so many ways?
"Much more needs to be done to end genocide around the world that America is explicit in"? How does she not see that because the US spends billions funding endless wars and racks up trillions of dollars of debt in the process that sufficient funding isn't made available for things like good infrastructure, education, healthcare? How does she not see that this genocide in Gaza and Lebanon is bought and paid for by Biden-Harris? Absolutely astounding!
And to end off in such a patronizing manner - keep being amazing! Excuse me?
This is nothing new to me, growing up in the 50’s and 60’s in Texas. The internet has opened the flood gates for white supremacists. Some, in more liberal enclaves like San Francisco, like my wife, might not have realized the extent of this as they grew up.
Yup I live in the Bay Area!
💔 Hospitals under fire as Israeli forces deepen operations in northern Gaza by Reuters
Absolutely heartbreaking
Wow! Great observation. In reading further, I’m looking through your eyes, and seeing through the eyes of others. In a sense, I feel damned.
And that is exactly where hope begins and is needed 🤗
Anyone who feels the need to justify or create a space of understanding for either themselves or White women upon reading this needs to take a deep look within themselves and the society in which they live. Dr. Cadet's words must be deeply listened to and honored. If hearing what she has to say causes you to bristle, even just a little bit, that's a sign you need to read this again and again and find more such literature until it sinks in.
Thank you.
You get it!💐👏🏾👏🏾
"White supremacy," or "male supremacy," or "tall people supremacy," or "good-looking people supremacy" is a thing. For whatever reasons, people are drawn to Caucasians, or men, or tall people, or good-looking people, as if they were superior, or had anything to do with the fact that they're Caucasian, or male, or tall, or good-looking. There's certainly no reason to hold against them these characteristics. But they should be very aware of their unearned advantages, and if anything, be humble about them, and always conscious about giving full respect and even deference to people who do not happen to have these unearned advantages. Clearly, that mostly doesn't happen. It's the old joke about the person who was born on third base, and thought he hit a triple.
Glad you clearly outlined the benefits. My book goes into how we use the power for good. Hope you pick it up!
Dr Cadet, I wrote you a response, but it disappeared. I can't bring myself to try to reconstruct it. Suffice it to say that the first part of it was my recommendation to you, if you haven't read it, to read "Black Like Me" by John Howard Griffin. It was published in 1964, which was when I read it in junior high school, and it was the effort of Griffin (a Caucasian adult) to try to experience some of what it was like to be African American in the deep south. It was sort of like a realization that Griffin had what amounted to the good fortune to be one kind of person instead of another, and he wanted to try to feel some of what it would have been like to have been the other kind of person. As I recall, he darkened his skin, found some way to change the texture of his hair, and found a way to enlarge his lips. He got whatever education he was seeking.
I & all my white girlfriends are voting for Kamala but I get your point. There are WAY too many white women afraid of losing their white privilege. Now address all those Black & Brown men voting for the worlds biggest racist!
"All those"? This narrative is way overblown and suspect. The numbers suppoedly doing so,, even if true, would barely be a glitch in the overall electorate. And the need for you to even mention that also exemplifies what Mr Rashid says about bristling, even a little bit.
A whole lot of white women did not vote for Trump too- most of us voted for Hillary. I’m pretty sure. While I agree white supremacy is all around, I cannot imagine putting whiteness above womanhood ever. Being black, this may be harder to understand but some of us don’t see color when we look in the mirror. That anlone sounds like a privilege but it’s also true. I understand society has constructs that give different people different experiences but let us not condemn groups - here white women- as though they are homogeneous either. Women are under attack from republicans and so called Christians and don’t need to be under attack by friendly fire. Haven’t read the book but look forward to it so this is a general view from the beginning question of remembering what white women did. I am a woman that sure looks white and I didn’t do that. Just sayin’.
So glad you are interested in reading my book 🤗
Why do insist on doing this?! More white women voted for the orange one than Hillary. That is a fact. You don’t get to pick your own facts. Also the same in 2020 - more voted for him even after the dismantling of Roe. It is fact.
I’m going to pass this along as a record of my digital footprint because in addition to E. Cheney’s book, I plan to read this one. I am interested in the subject and YOU passed it along.
Substack.
I’ll subscribe when I can afford to do so.
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