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Paul's avatar

When you say “we” in reference to yourself and the Dems you’re indicating that you haven’t yet divorced yourself from the leadership who is continuing to push anti populace policies

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Kerri Warner's avatar

This was excellent! Thank you!

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Katey for Change's avatar

Hope is a discipline! Love that!

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FinderSince1983's avatar

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Clifford Cobb's avatar

You are both 100% right, and it does not matter. Our lives are governed by passions, and facts are generally constructed ex post to affirm our passions. The politics of fear and repression has been the dominant narrative of human societies for 5,000 years, with sporadic experiments with what we might call the politics of flourishing. The problem is the Anna Karenina principle: all flourishing societies are alike; every repressive society is repressive in its own way. There are hundreds of ways social systems can go wrong, but to achieve a harmonious society, even for a brief period, requires bringing the pieces together in just the right way. It seems that the moments of magic when astonishing cultures emerge for a few generations cannot be replicated. We would like them to be the norm, but they are not. You both cite social science research findings about the potential of human systems to shine, but those are just pieces that have little value until united with similar pieces. The method of assembling them into a whole remains elusive. To create a flourishing society requires the simultaneous assembly of dozens or hundreds of pieces that somehow interact productively with each other. The Chinese figured this out around 3,000 years (before Confucius or Laozi) and called it "wu wei." The cultures of West Asia also discovered this principle and called it "salaam" (Arabic), "shalom" (Hebrew), or cognates in other languages. The term implies a wholeness or togetherness that surpasses understanding. So, my question is this: Is it possible to fight for salaam/shalom/wu wei instead of solely fighting against tyranny and fascism? We cannot defeat the forces of repression unless we can substitute the conditions of flourishing.

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Leonard Polletta's avatar

Please host the author of Copaganda on your show to tackle the criminal propaganda we are subjected to daily.

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SierraRiverRose's avatar

Great conversation, some reminders and some new information. Keep up the good work!

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Michael Huggins's avatar

Thank you for this informative conversation. Especially helpful is the counsel not to say anything to the police. And the encouragement to remain hopeful. Eliza, I’m going to follow your posts.

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Heather Paves's avatar

Fantastic! Thank you!

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